In Episode 45 Dr. Ng-A-Fook interviews Dr. Nichole Guillory, a Professor of Curriculum and Instruction in the Department of Secondary and Middle Grades Education and an affiliated faculty member in the Interdisciplinary Studies Department at Kennesaw State University. She currently teaches courses in family and community engagement in teacher education and Black feminism in interdisciplinary studies. Drawing on Black feminist theory and curriculum theory, her research focuses on Black mothering as a form of justice work. We discussed some of the following issues: Black mothering praxis and legacies, theorizing lament, sustaining our mental health and well-being during a Global Pandemic, working at predominantly white institutions, plantation politics, intersectionality, weaponizing course evaluations, disrupting Black mothering tropes, intergenerational narratives as arcs of resistance and hope, Black mother memoirs and public grieving, hip hop feminist theory, and so much more.