In Episode 40 Dr. Ng-A-Fook interviews Dr. Jennifer Tatebe, a senior lecturer at Auckland University’s Faculty of Education and Social Work. Dr. Jennifer Tatebe draws her different sociological and educational research expertise to share insights on hers and others lived experienced during the COVID-19 Pandemic in Aotearoa New Zealand. We discussed some of the following issues: navigating pandemic protocols in Aotearoa New Zealand, rurban sociological studies, educational impacts of immigration and housing policies for rural schools, transitional tensions for school leaders and teachers, social justice, addressing poverty, equity, and inclusion within the financial literacy curriculum, negotiating the gauntlet of tenure and promotion in higher education, and so much more.