In this fourteenth episode, Dr.  Nicholas Ng-A-Fook interviews Dr. Adrian Downey, an Assistant Professor at Mount Saint Vincent University. During their conversation, Dr. Downey shares his speculations as a Mi’kmaw curriculum theorist and posthumanist scholar in relation to the current 2020 COVID-19 pandemic. They discuss some of the following concepts: writing during and within the COVID-19 Atlantic bubble, distinctions between the necropolitical, zoepolitical and biopolitical, critical feminist posthumanism, Indigenous curriculum theorizing, scholars, and scholarship, affect, compost, settler colonialism, dangers of advanced capitalism and wet markets, ecological education, literacies of the land, attending relationally as humans to becoming-with waste, the more-than-human, non-human worlds and so much more.