In this fourth episode, Dr. Nicholas Ng-A-Fook interviews Dr. Vidya Shah, an Assistant Professor at York University committed to equity and justice. During their conversation, Dr. Shah shares her perspectives on leadership and systemic inequities in relation to our lived experiences with the COVID-19 Pandemic. She addresses some of the following concepts: educational leadership, settler colonialism, disproportionate racialized impacts of systemic inequities during a global crisis, the importance of collecting identity-based data, invisiblizing whiteness, intersecting impacts of racializations, access, opportunity gaps, questioning privilege, social justice, critical pedagogy, equity empires, identity-based data, Socially Engaged Buddhism, attachment, dis-identification, learning versus schooling, sustaining community partnerships and relationships, youth, curriculum and so much more.